All the “Quotes” Winston Churchill Never Said (2)

16 November 2018 Comments 3 Comments

“A”Red Herrings”: Fake Churchill Quotes (or things he said quoting someone else), continued from Part 1.… Compiled for the next expanded edition of Churchill by Himself. Chapter references are to current editions of that book.

“If you’re going through hell, keep going” is the most common counterfeit. Heard by everyone from presidents to comics, it is sheer fantasy—Churchill wasn’t given to such redundancy. What’s your favorite among these Red Herrings? Mine is the one about golf, which I experienced personally before I wisely gave it up.

Fanatic – Free Lunch

Fanatic: A fanatic is someone who won’t change his mind, and won’t change the subject.

Often attributed to Churchill or President Truman. “Among quotes I see often, but without a source. I doubt that it’s Truman, or, if he ever said it, that the quotation originated with him.” – Ralph Keyes, editor, The Quote Verifier.

Fear and Courage: Fear is a reaction. Courage is a decision. • No attribution.

Feet first: Not feet-first, please!

Supposedly said in 1962 to the stretcher-bearer after breaking his leg at Monte Carlo, but no quotes resembling this can be tracked.

First Thoughts: Distrust first thoughts—they are usually honest.

Churchill uttered these words in Parliament, 15 July 1948, but he put quote marks around them, and preceded them by saying, “As the cynic has said…”

Fools: The greatest lesson in life is to know that even fools are right sometimes • No attribution.

France: The destiny of a great nation has never yet been settled by the temporary condition of its technical apparatus.

Not one of Churchill’s quotes but said by him in the Commons, 2 August 1944. Churchill attributed it to Leon Trotsky.

France: God created France for its beauty and Frenchmen to balance it. • No attribution.

Free Lunch: There ain’t no free lunch.

WSC is alleged to have said only these five words at a commencement ceremony, and then resumed his seat. The Quote Verifier tracks them to various people from Milton Friedman to Merrill Rukeyser. It can also be found in Rudyard Kipling’s American Notes (1891). Kipling reported that San Francisco bars offered food to customers who ordered at least one drink.

Friendship – Genius

Friendship: We [or “He and I”] have been out together in all weathers.

Allegedly 1906. Said by Louis Botha about Churchill to WSC’s mother. At an imperial conference, having become prime minister of the Transvaal, Botha “so recently our enemy, passed up the hall to his place, he paused to say to my mother, who stood by my side, ‘He and I have been out in all weathers.’ It was surely true.” See Churchill’s M y Early Life.

Gandhi ought to be laid, bound hand and foot, at the gates of Delhi and then trampled on by an enormous elephant with the new Viceroy seated on its back.

Allegedly 4 November 1920, an example of how hearsay becomes a quotation. The usually reliable Duff Cooper reported it (Old Men Forget, 133), and it could be Churchill in one of his “Gandhi moods.” But without corroboration, it appears with quotemarks in an unreadable attack biography; and by an accomplished historian, Sarvepalli Gopal, in “Churchill and India” (Blake & Louis, Major New Assessment, 459). For genuine Gandhi quotes see Chapter 20, People, Gandhi.

Genius: True genius resides in the capacity for evaluation of uncertain, hazardous, and conflicting information. • No attribution.

Germany – Giving up

Germany: The war wasn’t only about abolishing fascism, but to conquer sales markets. We could have, if we had intended to, prevented this war from breaking out without doing one shot, but we didn’t want to. (Allegedly to Truman at Fulton, March 1946.)

You must understand that this war is not against Hitler or National Socialism but against the strength of the German people, which is to be smashed once and for all, whether it is in the hands of Hitler or a Jesuit priest! (Allegedly 1955, in Emrys Hughes, British Bulldog, 145.)

• No appearances for either of the above. The Germans are a people who killed off their own gods. • No attribution.

German Resistance: In Germany there lived an opposition which was weakened by their losses and an enervating international policy, but which belongs to the noblest and greatest that the political history of any nation has ever produced. These men fought without help from within or from abroad—driven forward only by the restlessness of their conscience. As long as they lived they were invisible and unrecognisable to us, because they had to camouflage themselves. But their death made the resistance visible.

Supposedly 1946. Richard Lamb, Churchill as War Leader, 292, 363, contains the only appearances in English of this passage, repeated in German by Rudolf Pechel (Deutscher Wilderstrand, 1947). In a footnote, Lamb says there is doubt that Churchill said the words, but did hold the sentiments, quoting WSC to Walter Hammer of Hamburg, 19 November 1946: “I have had a search made through my speeches…but so far no record can be found of any such pronouncement by me. But I might quite well have used the words you quote as they represent my feelings on this aspect of German affairs.”

Giving Up – Hell

Giving Up: Never give up on something that you can’t go a day without thinking about. • No attribution.

Golf: A curious sport whose object is to put a very small ball in a very small hole with implements ill-designed for the purpose.

• Allegedly 1915. Manchester, Last Lion I, 213, carries this remark, but the footnote is not dispositive. It does not, contrary to the footnote, appear in the Official Biography’s Companion Volumes. Verdict: Almost every golfer probably said something like this at one time or another.

Government Secrets: There is a difference between what endangers the nation and what merely embarrasses the government.

Not tracked to Churchill. See “What was then in egg is now afoot” in Chapter 12, “War.”

Greeks Fight Like Heroes: Hence we will not say that Greeks fight like heroes, but that heroes fight like Greeks.

Allegedly over Greece’s resistance to German invasion in April 1941. No attribution.

Harlot’s prerogative: Power without responsibility…the prerogative of the harlot through the ages.

Not Churchill but Rudyard Kipling. Subsequently used by Baldwin in 1931 without reference to Kipling (his cousin).

Health – Hell

Health: Half the world’s work is done by people who don’t feel well. • No attribution.

Hebrew Bloodsuckers: The central fact which dominates the relations of Jew and non-Jew is that the Jew is “different.” He looks different. He thinks differently. He has a different tradition and background….Every Jewish moneylender recalls Shylock and the idea of the Jews as usurers. And you cannot reasonably expect a struggling clerk or shopkeeper, paying 40 or 50 percent interest on borrowed money to a “Hebrew Bloodsucker,” to reflect that almost every other way of life was closed to the Jewish people.

A 1937 draft for a proposed Churchill article by Marshall Diston, a hack writer who wrote draft proposals for Churchill periodical articles. Martin Gilbert reproduced the draft years ago (OB, CV5 Part 5, 670). He showed that Churchill scarcely glanced at it and twice disapproved its publication. The original bore none of his usual copious edits. This did not prevent scandalous claims that these were Churchill’s words.

Hell: If you’re going through hell, keep going. •No attribution.

Heroes – Idiots

Heroes: A nation that fails to honor its heroes soon will have no heroes to honor.

• Not Churchill. Possibly derived from Allan Bloom’s The Closing of the American Mind: In modern society “they have no heroes to emulate.”

Horrible Cow: How shall I deal with this horrible cow? I will sit on the stile, And continue to smile, Which may soften the heart of the cow.

(Liverpool, 7 May 1924). Not Churchill, since he preceded this by saying, “You all know the famous rhyme about the old man….” (He was blaming the Liberals for keeping the minority Labour government in power.)

Horses: The outside of a horse is good for the inside of a man.

Repeatedly attributed to everyone from Woodrow Wilson’s physician to Ronald Reagan, Henry Ward Beecher and Oliver Wendell Holmes. “Verdict: Long-time male equestrian wisdom.” –The Quote Verifier, 91. What Churchill did say about horses is an amusing substitute. (See Chapter 32, Tastes and Favourites, Horses.)

Huns: The Hun is always at your throat or at your feet.

Not among WSC’s quotes. He did say this (to Congress, 19 May 1943) but preceded it by saying, “The proud German Army has once again proved the truth of the saying…”

Idiots: I’d rather argue against a hundred idiots than have one agree with me. • No attribution.

Indians – Immigration

Indian Rascals, Rogues and Freebooters: Power will go to the hands of rascals, rogues, freebooters; all Indian leaders will be of low calibre and men of straw. They will have sweet tongues and silly hearts. They will fight amongst themselves for power and India will be lost in political squabbles.

Among fake quotes this garners the most comment on my website, I searched diligently for it, without success. It sounds like his sentiments toward the Congress Party, but his views on India were far more nuanced. (See Chapter 11, Nations…India.)

Ingratitude towards their great men is the mark of strong peoples.

Published 1949 in Their Finest Hour, 10, but Churchill himself credited Plutarch with this remark. He was commentating on the discarding of the French war leader Georges Clemenceau after the victory of World War I. See Chapter 20, People, Clemenceau.

Immigration: Keep England White.

• Churchill is sometimes pronounced a racist for this alleged exclamation at a cabinet meeting on 20 January 1955. It stems from a diary note by Harold Macmillan: “P.M. thinks ‘Keep England White’ a good slogan! The exclamation point suggests that it was a wry aside during discussion of West Indian immigration. Unrecorded in cabinet minutes or a public statement, it remains hearsay.

Interrupting – Italians

Interrupting: Do stop interrupting me while I am interrupting you.

• A bowdlerized version of a comment to his son: “Randolph, do not interrupt me while I’m interrupting” (see Chapter 31, Personal Matters, Faults — interrupting).

Islam: When Muslims are in the minority they are very concerned with minority rights, when they are in the majority there are no minority rights. • No attribution.

Italians: [German Ambassador von Ribbentrop:] “Don’t forget, Mr. Churchill, if there is a war, we will have the Italians on our side this time.”] My dear Ambassador, it’s only fair. We had them last time.

Alleged aside during WSC’s famous 1937 meeting with the “Londonderry Herr” (see Chapter 20, People, Ribbentrop). A very droll line among fictitious quotes. Sadly, no attribution exists, although it amused an Italian friend of mine immensely.

Jaw, Jaw – Lies

Jaw, Jaw and War, War: Jaw, jaw is better than war, war.

Washington, 1954. Misquoted from “Meeting jaw to jaw is better than war.” Harold Macmillan in 1958 said the words usually—and wrongly—attributed to Churchill: “Jaw, jaw is better than war, war.”

Keep your Mouth Shut: Life is fraught with opportunities to keep your mouth shut. • No attribution.

Kiss a Girl, Climb a Wall: The most difficult things for a man to do are to climb a wall leaning towards you, and to kiss a girl leaning away from you. [Sometimes quoted with an addition: “…and to make an after-dinner speech.”]

Commonly ascribed, but nowhere in the canon. Recently claimed by religion columnist Marion de Velder, but probably a much older expression.

Liberal and Conservative: If a man is not liberal in youth he has no heart. If he is not conservative when older he has no brain. [Or: When I was a young liberal I thought with my heart; when I grew wiser and conservative I thought with my brain.]

Among popular quotes on the Internet, but not by Churchill.

Liberty: They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Circa 1940. Often attributed to Churchill, this remark originated at least as early as 1776 with Benjamin Franklin, though it may date back two decades earlier, to 1755. If Churchill used it, he was quoting Franklin.

More fake quotes:

…continued in Part 3.

Thanks! I can say with certainty that the only occurrence of “camel dung” among Churchill’s 20 million known words is his 23Oct43 question to Eden’s Undersecretary, Alexander Cadogan, as to whether the Turkish word AMGOT “means camel dung or something equally unpleasant?” Cadogan replied: “Prime Minister, I have established, on high authority, that AMGOT does not, in Turkish, signify camel dung. It does not correspond to any single Turkish word. There are, however, two Turkish words, ‘Ahm’ and ‘Kot,’ which an English scholar would, not incorrectly, translate as ‘Cunt’ and ‘Arse’…. The Turkish term for camel’s dung is deve gübresi.” (Cadogan to his Diary: “My task is complicated by the PM suggesting—or sending—spasmodic replies to [Eden’s] telegrams which really require some modification.”)

Sorry, couldn’t resist.

There is one hearsay report that he said something similar to the words you quote, but the evidence is not strong, in fact contradictory. The context was Churchill’s criticism of the 1939 Palestine White Paper, which he regarded as anti-Semitic. It’s in Michael Makovsky’s excellent book, Churchill’s Promised Land, pp. 168-69: but you need to read it in full:

As much as Churchill’s respect and sympathy for the Jews had strengthened, his opinion of the Palestinian Arabs and their cause had worsened. He could not understand why the Arabs were indulged when they, in contrast to the Jews, reaped more than history owed. He argued that “elsewhere over vast regions inhabited by the Arabs independent Arab Kingdoms and principalities have come into being such as had never been known in Arab history before.” More specifically, he did not understand why the government favored the Palestinian Arabs who historically had been hostile to Britain and its interests (:fighting for the Ottomans in the First World War, for instance), and still were. He expressed great frustration with the perverse strategic choices made by the government of favoring enemies over allies. He exclaimed, “We are now asked to submit—and this is what rankles most with me—to an agitation which is fed with foreign money and ceaselessly inflamed by Nazi and by Fascist propaganda.” Perhaps reflecting his complete exasperation with the Palestinian Arabs, in 1938 he got into a big argument with Malcolm MacDonald, the new colonial secretary, in the lobby of the House of Commons. MacDonald recalled the argument several decades later: “He told me I was crazy to help the Arabs, because they were a backward people who ate nothing but camel dung.” While these might not have been Churchill’s exact words, the gist of the comment jibed with what he had thought of the Palestinian Arabs at least since encountering them in the early 1920s.

3 thoughts on “All the “Quotes” Winston Churchill Never Said (2)”

Savrola says:
13 December 2018 at 22:09
Thanks a lot for this prompt, yet as usual, excellent answer !
Richard Langworth says:
7 December 2018 at 12:34
Thanks! I can say with certainty that the only occurrence of “camel dung” among Churchill’s 20 million known words is his 23Oct43 question to Eden’s Undersecretary, Alexander Cadogan, as to whether the Turkish word AMGOT “means camel dung or something equally unpleasant?” Cadogan replied: “Prime Minister, I have established, on high authority, that AMGOT does not, in Turkish, signify camel dung. It does not correspond to any single Turkish word. There are, however, two Turkish words, ‘Ahm’ and ‘Kot,’ which an English scholar would, not incorrectly, translate as ‘Cunt’ and ‘Arse’…. The Turkish term for camel’s dung is deve gübresi.” (Cadogan to his Diary: “My task is complicated by the PM suggesting—or sending—spasmodic replies to [Eden’s] telegrams which really require some modification.”)
Sorry, couldn’t resist.
There is one hearsay report that he said something similar to the words you quote, but the evidence is not strong, in fact contradictory. The context was Churchill’s criticism of the 1939 Palestine White Paper, which he regarded as anti-Semitic. It’s in Michael Makovsky’s excellent book, Churchill’s Promised Land, pp. 168-69: but you need to read it in full:
As much as Churchill’s respect and sympathy for the Jews had strengthened, his opinion of the Palestinian Arabs and their cause had worsened. He could not understand why the Arabs were indulged when they, in contrast to the Jews, reaped more than history owed. He argued that “elsewhere over vast regions inhabited by the Arabs independent Arab Kingdoms and principalities have come into being such as had never been known in Arab history before.” More specifically, he did not understand why the government favored the Palestinian Arabs who historically had been hostile to Britain and its interests (:fighting for the Ottomans in the First World War, for instance), and still were. He expressed great frustration with the perverse strategic choices made by the government of favoring enemies over allies. He exclaimed, “We are now asked to submit—and this is what rankles most with me—to an agitation which is fed with foreign money and ceaselessly inflamed by Nazi and by Fascist propaganda.” Perhaps reflecting his complete exasperation with the Palestinian Arabs, in 1938 he got into a big argument with Malcolm MacDonald, the new colonial secretary, in the lobby of the House of Commons. MacDonald recalled the argument several decades later: “He told me I was crazy to help the Arabs, because they were a backward people who ate nothing but camel dung.” While these might not have been Churchill’s exact words, the gist of the comment jibed with what he had thought of the Palestinian Arabs at least since encountering them in the early 1920s.
Savrola says:
7 December 2018 at 02:56
Great work Mr Langworth, your website and your works have aided me in my arguments both against the liars who indulge in calumny against Sir Winston. However, I do have one question. Did he ever say “Palestinians are barbaric hordes who ate little but camel dung?