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Red Herrings

I have spent a fruitless few hours trying to find a quote by Churchill about bathing. I interpret his remark, “why stand when you can sit down?” as suggesting that he preferred baths to showers, but recall that when he visited Russia, he said a bath there was “like lying in one’s own dirt.” Did he say that? The reason for my interest is that I want to give up baths for a month and would like to enlist the “help” of someone like WSC. —P.P., UK

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Churchill's habits were well known to the Nazis, who lampooned him in this June 1941 cartoon in ILLUSTRIERTER BEOBACHTER. WSC is saying: "Take this down: In my current situation, I fear German U-boats even less than before." (From Randall Bytwerk, "Churchill in Nazi Cartoon Propaganda," FINEST HOUR 143.)

Sorry, but I cannot find anything like “lying in one’s own dirt” in my digital scans of the canon. While this is not dispositive, I doubt he ever changed his mind about baths and would not approve of your plan. I trust you are not giving up showers!

Churchill was a famous bather—twice a day when he had time—although those Russian tubs were pretty filthy. He had his clothes fumigated after returning from Yalta, certain that they had picked up unwanted guests….

Your question puts me in mind of two quotations in Churchill by Himself, neither of which support your proposal. From the chapter on America, p 115:

England and America are divided by a great ocean of salt water, but united by an eternal bathtub of soap and water.

—Press Club, New York City, 8 December 1900

Hugh Gaitskell, Minister of Fuel and Power in the postwar Labour Government, was urging energy conservation when he said: “Personally, I have never had a great many baths myself, and I can assure those who are in the habit of having a great many that it does not make a great difference to their health if they have less.” This was too much for Churchill, the renowned bather:

When Ministers of the Crown speak like this on behalf of His Majesty’s Government, the Prime Minister and his friends have no need to wonder why they are getting increasingly into bad odour. I had even asked myself, when meditating upon these points whether you, Mr. Speaker, would admit the word “lousy” as a Parliamentary expression in referring to the Administration, provided, of course, it was not intended in a contemptuous sense but purely as one of factual narration.

—House of Commons, 28 October 1947



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Churchill allegedly compared Russian politics to a “dogfight under a carpet.” It was mentioned in The Economist of 17 November 2005: “Like watching dogs fighting under a carpet, was how Churchill described Russian politics. On November 14th the carpet stirred, when President Vladimir Putin announced that Dmitry Medvedev, head of the presidential administration since 2003, was to become first deputy prime minister.” It seems to be fairly well known. Can you give me the exact quote and a citation? —P.C.

Unfortunately, because it’s an amusing line that sounds a bit like him, I cannot. We searched my digital canon: fifty million published words including Churchill’s own fifteen million words—all his books, articles, speeches and published papers. “Dogfight” gets ten hits, all referring to aerial warfare. “Carpet” has 264 hits but none close to this quotation, and “under the carpet” draws a blank. Without further information, we have to conclude this is unsubstantiated. The Economist is unhelpful, providing no attribution, and not even a byline by which one could query the author.

Alas these red herrings are all over the Internet, with no attribution whatsoever. I devoted an appendix of Churchill by Himself to nearly 100 of most popular, which Churchill either never said, or denied saying. Unfortunately, I missed this one.

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More “Quotations” Churchill Never Said

June 19, 2009

A website named IL Conservative posted on June 18th eight Churchill “quotations,” six of which he never said. These quotations are all over the Internet, none of them attributed, and just seem to multiply and get passed on, like the common cold.
The purpose of the “Red Herrings” appendix of some eighty incorrect quotations in Churchill [...]

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Obama, Churchill and Torture

April 30, 2009

In his press conference of 29 April, in response to a question on the disclosure of top secret memos on the use of “enhanced interrogation methods,” Mr. Obama said:

I was struck by an article that I was reading the other day talking about the fact that the British during World War II, when London was [...]

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Definition of “Fanatic”

March 18, 2009

Can you verify whether or not Churchill said: “A fanatic is someone who won’t change his mind and won’t change the subject”?  —T.M., Ontario, Canada

Sorry, it’s not Churchill. From Churchill by Himself, the “Red Herrings” appendix (unattributed quotes), page 574: “Often attributed to Churchill or President Truman. Ralph Keyes, editor, The Quote Verifier, writes: ‘It’s [...]

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