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					<description><![CDATA[The Martin Gilbert Learning Centre offers a free Zoom presentation by Lady Gilbert herself, on the 1945 bombing of Dresden. The date is Monday 13 February 2023 at 2pm Eastern, 11 am Pacific, 7pm Greenwich Mean Time. Email Deputy Director Dr. Bethany Gaunt to be put on the Zoom invitation list. Lady Gilbert will include Sir Martin's story about how a Soviet general corroborated the truth about who ordered the bombing—in Moscow!]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3 class="gmail_default">Dresden: 13 February 2023</h3>
<div class="gmail_default"><a href="https://sirmartingilbertlearningcentre.org/event/the-bombing-of-dresden-war-crime-or-necessity-readings-from-sir-martin/#tribe-tickets">The Martin Gilbert Learning Centre</a> presented a lecture by Lady Gilbert on the 1945 bombing of Dresden. Lady Gilbert included Sir Martin’s story of how a retired Soviet general backed his claim that the Russians asked for the attack on Dresden She also reminded us to Sir Martin’s further response to Juan Williams (below), as to why Dresden in particular is so engraved on the memory.</div>
<h3>Myth and Reality</h3>
<p style="text-align: left;">The largest section of&nbsp;<em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1476665834/?tag=richmlang-20">Winston Churchill, Myth and Reality</a>&nbsp;</em>examines the Second World War, the leading source of Churchill myths. Did an actor deliver his broadcasts? Did he let <a href="https://richardlangworth.com/coventry">Coventry be bombed</a> to protect his sources of intelligence? Was Churchill against the Second Front in France? Did he&nbsp;<a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/did-churchill-cause-the-bengal-famine/">exacerbate the Bengal famine</a>, destroy <a href="https://richardlangworth.com/monte-cassino-1944">Monte Cassino abbey</a>, refuse to bomb Auschwitz or feed the oppressed in occupied Europe? No. But no canard is more persistent than the story that Churchill firebombed Dresden in hatred and revenge for Germany’s bombing of Coventry. That one has been around for over fifty years. Continued from <a href="https://richardlangworth.com/myth-churchill-admired-hitler">Part 5.</a></p>
<p>Here is the truth. Churchill looked with horror on what he called “the hideous process of bombing open cities from the air.” He sanctioned it at times for four reasons: 1) The Germans started it, over Warsaw and Rotterdam. 2) The British people demanded it after <u>they</u> were bombed. 3) Britain’s military chiefs considered it the best way to attack Germany. 4) For a long time it was the only substitute for the “Second Front” the Russians demanded. Nevertheless, Churchill challenged the indiscriminate bombing of civilians. Of the three allied leaders, he was the only one who did.</p>
<h3>The horror of Dresden</h3>
<p>Between February 13th and 15th, 1945, 800 Allied bombers destroyed 1600 acres in Dresden and killed 25,000 people. It was bloodthirsty and unnecessary. And at least as far back as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Vonnegut">Kurt Vonnegut</a>’s <em>Slaughterhouse-Five</em>, Churchill has been excoriated for this murderous act.</p>
<p>There is a vast subtext, too lengthy to recite here. The main points are twofold: Dresden was on the list of 58 cities which Air Marshal “Bomber” Harris was grinding his way through. Far more important, bombing Dresden was requested by the Soviet high command.</p>
<p>A Soviet intelligence report (later proven erroneous) indicated that one or two German armored divisions were in Dresden on their way to reinforce the Eastern Front. Accordingly the Russians—who would later denounce the attack as an Anglo-American war crime—made the request that led to Dresden’s destruction.</p>
<figure id="attachment_6335" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-6335" style="width: 416px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="https://richardlangworth.com/churchill-bombing-dresden/1945feb5yalta" rel="attachment wp-att-6335"><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="wp-image-6335 " src="https://richardlangworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/1945Feb5Yalta-300x259.jpg" alt="Dresden" width="416" height="359" srcset="http://localhost:8080/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/1945Feb5Yalta-300x259.jpg 300w, http://localhost:8080/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/1945Feb5Yalta-768x664.jpg 768w, http://localhost:8080/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/1945Feb5Yalta-1024x885.jpg 1024w, http://localhost:8080/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/1945Feb5Yalta-312x270.jpg 312w, http://localhost:8080/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/1945Feb5Yalta.jpg 1038w" sizes="(max-width: 416px) 100vw, 416px"></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-6335" class="wp-caption-text">Churchill arriving (in a Packard) at the Yalta Conference, February 1945. (Packard Club)</figcaption></figure>
<p>Ironically, Churchill had left London for the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yalta_Conference">Yalta Conference</a> when the Soviet request came in. He wasn’t even there to give the order. The task fell to Deputy Prime Minister <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Attlee">Clement Attlee</a>. Churchill did not learn of the Russian request until he arrived in Yalta on February 4th. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin">Stalin</a>’s first question to him was, “Why haven’t you bombed Dresden?” <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Lunghi">Hugh Lunghi</a>, Churchill’s interpreter, remembered that he had personally delivered the message to the Russians that the attack had been ordered.</p>
<h3>Martin Gilbert’s revelation</h3>
<p>Forty years later, Churchill’s biographer <a href="http://www.martingilbert.com/">Sir Martin Gilbert</a> revealed these facts in a Moscow lecture before high-ranking, disbelieving Red Army officers. Martin said: “Then to my rescue arose an old general, bedizened with medals. During the war he had been deputy to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksei_Antonov">General Aleksei Antonov</a>, the Soviet chief of staff….</p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;">Shuffling to the microphone, he said in a thick Russian accent: “Everything the Professor says…is true!” You could have heard a pin drop.</p>
<p>Sir Martin revealed this at a Washington Churchill lecture in 2004. Our moderator, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Williams">Juan Williams of Fox News</a>, was incredulous. “Why then has the controversy over Dresden never ceased?” Juan asked. “It is a horrible fact. We cannot erase it from the record.” Sir Martin replied:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;">Who can say why one out of thousands of historical events creates interest while the others do not? The firebombing of Tokyo was far more devastating, and yet we never hear Tokyo discussed. To bomb Dresden, at request of the Soviets, was but one small part in a broad campaign. Churchill didn’t even order it. Yet there is no reason to suppose he would have reacted any differently than Attlee.</p>
<h3><strong>Part 7: Post-Second World War</strong></h3>
<p>Finally,&nbsp;<em>Winston Churchill, Myth and Reality&nbsp;</em>covers the postwar years. We consider his supposed proposal to nuke Moscow. his alleged desire for spheres of influence, the nonsense story about his supposed unhappy marriage. Appendices cover minor myths, and quotes ascribed to Churchill which he never said. Since the book is now in its second life as a paperback, I will be glad to summarize any chapter here at the request of any reader.</p>
<p>The rest of my Nashville paper covers my final chapter, “The Common Touch,” which showed how deeply, contrary to his critics, Churchill cared for ordinary people. This topic is already covered by a five-part series herein. <a href="https://richardlangworth.com/common1">Click here.&nbsp;</a></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>A magazine fact checker writes asking if Churchill ever said, “Stalin never broke his word to me.” The short answer is yes. The long answer shows how careful we should be when quoting Churchill.</p>
<p>The source of this quote is the journalist <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_Leo_Sulzberger_II">C.L. Sulzberger</a> (1912-1993), in his 1970 book, The Last of the Giants, page 304. In it Sulzberger reports his “five hours with old Winston Churchill” at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartwell">Chartwell</a> on 10 July 1956.</p>
<p>Churchill, wrote Sulzberger, thought Stalin “a great man, above all compared to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khruschev">Khruschev </a>and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulganin">Bulganin</a>,” and quoted Churchill as follows:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;">Stalin never broke his word to me.&#8230;</p>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A magazine fact checker writes asking if Churchill ever said, “Stalin never broke his word to me.” The short answer is yes. The long answer shows how careful we should be when quoting Churchill.</p>
<figure id="attachment_2084" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2084" style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="https://richardlangworth.com/stalin-1__trashed/sulzberger-2" rel="attachment wp-att-2084"><img decoding="async" class="size-medium wp-image-2084" src="https://richardlangworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Sulzberger1-160x300.jpg" alt="Stalin" width="160" height="300" srcset="http://localhost:8080/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Sulzberger1-160x300.jpg 160w, http://localhost:8080/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Sulzberger1.jpg 271w" sizes="(max-width: 160px) 100vw, 160px"></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-2084" class="wp-caption-text">Cyrus Leo Sulzberger in 1968. (Wikipedia Commons)</figcaption></figure>
<p>The source of this quote is the journalist <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_Leo_Sulzberger_II">C.L. Sulzberger</a> (1912-1993), in his 1970 book, <em>The Last of the Giants,</em> page 304. In it Sulzberger reports his “five hours with old Winston Churchill” at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartwell">Chartwell</a> on 10 July 1956.</p>
<p>Churchill, wrote Sulzberger, thought Stalin “a great man, above all compared to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khruschev">Khruschev </a>and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulganin">Bulganin</a>,” and quoted Churchill as follows:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;">Stalin never broke his word to me. We agreed on the Balkans. I said he could have Rumania and Bulgaria; he said we could have Greece (of course, only in our sphere, you know). He signed a slip of paper. And he never broke his word. We saved Greece that way. When we went in in 1944 Stalin didn’t interfere. You Americans didn’t help, you know.</p>
<p>Sulzberger was a reliable reporter, so the source although hearsay, is credible. As a&nbsp; gauge of Churchill’s final view of Stalin, it is more problematic.</p>
<p>By 1956 Churchill was an aged 81, out of power and still smarting over his failure to achieve a summit conference with the Russians. (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisenhower">Eisenhower</a> held one almost immediately after Churchill left office, saying, privately. that he feared “Winston might give away the store.”) Churchill had long argued for a three-power meeting and “settlement” with the Russians, based on the brand of personal diplomacy he’d practiced with Stalin during World War II.</p>
<h3>Stalin and the “Percentages Agreement”</h3>
<p>In saying Stalin never broke his word, Churchill referred to the much misrepresented “naughty paper.” This was the “<a href=" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percentages_agreement ">percentages agreement</a>” with Stalin in their Moscow talks (Tolstoy Conference, &nbsp;9-19 October 1944)—which Stalin <em>did</em> honor. The Soviets made no move to interfere when Churchill <a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/churchill-documents-volume-20/">flew to Athens to broker a truce</a> between communist and nationalist insurgents. Stalin began meddling in Greece after Churchill was out of office. He met stiff resistance from <a href="https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/truman-doctrine#:~:text=With%20the%20Truman%20Doctrine%2C%20President,external%20or%20internal%20authoritarian%20forces.&amp;text=Truman%20asked%20Congress%20to%20support%20the%20Greek%20Government%20against%20the%20Communists.">President Truman</a>.</p>
<p>After the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yalta_conference">Yalta Conference</a> in February 1945, Churchill said he thought he could trust Stalin. His success in Greece was fresh in his mind, and Stalin had promised free elections in Poland. Within a month Churchill admitted, in correspondence with Roosevelt, that he’d been wrong. Even in the immediate aftermath of Yalta, on 23 February 1945, he wondered, after Germany’s defeat, “what will lie between the white snows of Russia and the white cliffs of Dover?” (John Colville, <em>Fringes of Power</em>, 563).</p>
<p>It is fair to say that Churchill believed Stalin had not broken his word through 1944. To some extent his 1956 remark to Sulzberger was meant to contrast what Churchill saw as the giant figure of Stalin. But trust in Stalin was certainly not something Churchill expressed often after 1945. In the end, I doubt that he had very much.</p>
<p>Speaking at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (3 March 1949) Churchill predicted the fall of communism, fueled by “a spark coming from God knows where and in a moment the whole structure of lies and oppression is on trial for its life.” Jock Colville told me that WSC said to him: “I won’t live to see it, but you will.” Colville died in 1987. He didn’t quite make it.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>“Dewey, Hoover and Churchill” is excerpted from an article for the <a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/about-the-churchill-project/">Hillsdale College Churchill Project</a>. For the complete text,&#160;<a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/">click here.</a>&#160;The latest volume 20 of&#160;The Churchill Documents, Nomandy and Beyond: May-December 1944, is available for $60 from the <a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/store/">Hillsdale College Bookstore.</a></p>
<p>A great joy of reading&#160;<a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/store/">The Churchill Documents</a>&#160;is their trove of historical sidelights. Volume 22 (August 1945—September 1951, due late 2018) covers the early Cold War: the “Iron Curtain,” the Marshall Plan, Berlin Airlift and Korean War. It reminds us of the political battles swirling around the Anglo-American “special relationship.”&#8230;</p>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>“Dewey, Hoover and Churchill” is excerpted from an article for the <a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/about-the-churchill-project/">Hillsdale College Churchill Project</a>. For the complete text,&nbsp;<a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/">click here.</a></strong>&nbsp;The latest volume 20 of&nbsp;<em>The Churchill Documents, Nomandy and Beyond: May-December 1944, is available for $60 from the <a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/store/">Hillsdale College Bookstore.</a></em></p>
<p>A great joy of reading&nbsp;<a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/store/"><em>The Churchill Documents</em></a>&nbsp;is their trove of historical sidelights. Volume 22 (August 1945—September 1951, due late 2018) covers the early Cold War: the “Iron Curtain,” the Marshall Plan, Berlin Airlift and Korean War. It reminds us of the political battles swirling around the Anglo-American “special relationship.” The issues seem very clear in hindsight. Seven decades ago, the future was unknowable. Take Governor Dewey and the question of America’s commitment to world security.</p>
<h2><strong>The Dewey Lament</strong></h2>
<figure id="attachment_7322" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-7322" style="width: 300px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="https://richardlangworth.com/dewey-hoover-churchill-postwar-policy/thomas-e-dewey-wins-district-attorney-election" rel="attachment wp-att-7322"><img decoding="async" class="size-medium wp-image-7322" src="https://richardlangworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/thomas-e-dewey-wins-district-attorney-election-300x227.jpg" alt="Dewey" width="300" height="227" srcset="http://localhost:8080/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/thomas-e-dewey-wins-district-attorney-election-300x227.jpg 300w, http://localhost:8080/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/thomas-e-dewey-wins-district-attorney-election-357x270.jpg 357w, http://localhost:8080/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/thomas-e-dewey-wins-district-attorney-election.jpg 458w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px"></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-7322" class="wp-caption-text">Thomas E. Dewey, 1904-1971. (History.com)</figcaption></figure>
<p>In late 1950, Churchill received a letter from twice-unsuccessful presidential candidate Thomas E. Dewey. The&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_E._Dewey">New York governor</a>&nbsp;took issue with his fellow Republican, former President&nbsp;<a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/churchill-and-the-presidents-herbert-hoover-2/">Herbert Hoover:</a></p>
<blockquote><p>I have hesitated for a long time about burdening you with this [but] I am taking the liberty of imposing upon you…. Mr. Hoover made a speech night before last, the implications of which are appalling to me. The press reports today it has had wide and unhappy repercussions in Great Britain and on the Continent.</p>
<p>I am still not quite sure why I ran again [for president in 1948] but in any event, having no ambitions or expectations of having any other office I am free to proselyte to the limit of my capacity for the point of view expressed in my speech and intend to do so. [Churchill, a lover of concise English, must have blanched at that.]</p>
<p>If you find any spot on the horizon more cheerful than I do, I should appreciate hearing of it. The world is filled with gloom and almost in extremis.<sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1">1</a></sup></p></blockquote>
<h2>Not “another man or dollar…”</h2>
<p>Probably a lot of people beside Dewey wondered why he had run again (he had lost to FDR in 1944).&nbsp; But to me, the surprise was to find Dewey, a former Republican nominee, taking issue with Hoover the last Republican president. They certainly didn’t like each other. Hoover reportedly said Dewey had “no inner reservoir of knowledge on which to draw for his thinking…. A man couldn’t wear a mustache like that without having it affect his mind.”</p>
<p>I&nbsp;asked&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0393025500/?tag=richmlang-20">Professor George Nash, Hoover’s biographer</a>, what Dewey was referring to. Dr. Nash referred us to Hoover’s broadcast of 20 December 1950, the text of which he sent. He also helped us compose a footnote to Dewey’s note to Churchill:</p>
<blockquote><p>On December 20, Hoover gave a speech to advocate a Western-hemisphere-oriented “Gibraltar” geopolitical strategy, a buildup of American air and naval forces, but not of its army, focused on defending the Western Hemisphere and the free island nations on the Pacific and Atlantic rims, like Taiwan and the UK “if she wishes to cooperate.” Hoover would also refuse to send “another man or dollar” to continental Europe for its defense until​ the non-​communist nations there strengthened their own military forces. His advice (denounced by his critics as isolationist) differed from&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_S._Truman">President Truman</a>’s plan, announced just the day before, to send more U.S. troops to western Europe to assist in NATO’s defense preparations.<sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2">2</a></sup></p></blockquote>
<h2><strong>“Some great common bond…”</strong></h2>
<p>As World War II had wound down, America’s attitude toward the postwar defense of Europe was a <a href="https://richardlangworth.com/war2">major concern of Churchill’s.</a>&nbsp;<em>The Churchill Documents</em>&nbsp;contain many examples of this. <sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftn3" name="_ftnref3">3</a></sup>&nbsp;Churchill’s worries continued after Roosevelt’s death. What would be the attitude of the new president? In May 1945 Churchill wrote Truman, asking for a “standstill order” on the movements of U.S. forces. Truman replied, “I must not have any avoidable interference with the redeployment of American forces to the Pacific.”<sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftn4" name="_ftnref4">4</a></sup></p>
<p>To Churchill’s relief, Truman adopted a robust attitude toward Soviet aggression. The President tacitly (though not publicly) approved of Churchill’s forceful 1946 message about the Iron Curtin. He responded vigorously to communist challenges in Greece and Turkey. When the Russians seemed to hesitate in withdrawing troops from Iran, Truman sent a naval task force led by the battleship&nbsp;<em>Missouri</em>&nbsp;into&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_of_Marmara">Sea of Marmara</a>.<sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftn6" name="_ftnref6">6</a></sup></p>
<p>In 1948,&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin">Stalin</a>&nbsp;threatened to cut off Allied access to Berlin. Truman and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.britannica.com/biography/Clement-Attlee">Prime Minister Attlee</a>&nbsp;defied him with the Berlin Airlift. In the House of Commons, a jubilant Churchill congratulated Labour with gusto.<sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftn7" name="_ftnref7">7</a></sup>&nbsp;He even hoped for “some great common bond of union, like we had in 1940.”<sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftn8" name="_ftnref8">8</a></sup>&nbsp;It was typical of Churchill’s lifelong preference for coalitions at times of crisis.</p>
<h2><strong>“We cannot buy [Europe] with money…”</strong></h2>
<p>Hoover was not proposing American isolation. He wanted America armed to the teeth, able to repulse any challenge. Like Churchill, he voiced “the need to preserve Western Civilization on the Continent of Europe [and] our cultural and religious ties to it.”<sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftn9" name="_ftnref9">9</a></sup></p>
<p>They diverged in two critical areas. The first was the atomic bomb, which the Soviets had by then acquired. Hoover said the bomb was “a far less dominant weapon than it was once thought to be.”<sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftn10" name="_ftnref10">10</a></sup>&nbsp;Churchill differed profoundly. “It may well be,” he had declared in 1946, “that in a few years this awful agency of destruction will be widespread, and the catastrophe following from its use by several warring nations will not only bring to an end all that we call civilization but may possibly disintegrate the globe itself.”<sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftn11" name="_ftnref11">11</a></sup></p>
<p>Hoover also balked at helping a Europe that refused to help itself. “The test is whether they have the spiritual force, the will, and acceptance of unity among them by their own volition. America cannot create their spiritual forces; we cannot buy them with money.” Churchill was doing his best to create unity of purpose and collaboration, but this view was anathema to him. With the best spiritual will and unity, he declared again and again in those years, Europe could not defend itself. It was America’s obligation to do everything to help.</p>
<p>Otherwise, however, the Hoover and Churchill theses run parallel. Hoover like Churchill favored peace through strength. He advocated a joint naval and air strategy, a unity of minds between the United States and the British Empire and Commonwealth. That is what Churchill had worked for most of his life.</p>
<h2><strong>“I would denounce such a plan scathingly”</strong></h2>
<p>Churchill’s 1950 reply to Dewey was brief: “It is a comfort to me that you felt Hoover’s speech was ‘appalling.’ I think that your own declarations are of far more consequence.”<sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftn12" name="_ftnref12">12</a></sup>&nbsp;But two years later Eisenhower was elected. And Eisenhower, like Hoover, seemed betimes to regard the atomic bomb as just another weapon.</p>
<p>Oddly or ironically, Dewey now proposed a defense posture much like Hoover’s. He and Churchill met in New York in January 1953, before Eisenhower took office. They were joined by&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Foster_Dulles">John Foster Dulles,</a>&nbsp;about to become Eisenhower’s Secretary of State.</p>
<p>The details of that meeting will appear in the final volume 23 of&nbsp;<em>The Churchill Documents.&nbsp;</em>We already know much of it from&nbsp;<em><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/store/">Never Despair 1945-1965</a>,</em>&nbsp;Martin Gilbert’s final Churchill biographic volume. On 7 January Churchill cabled his Foreign Minister&nbsp;<a href="https://www.britannica.com/biography/Anthony-Eden">Anthony Eden</a>&nbsp;and Chancellor of the Exchequer&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rab_Butler">R.A. Butler:</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Dewey proposed a scheme for a Pacific Treaty between all Pacific powers including the Philippines, Formosa [Taiwan], and the like, excluding (repeat excluding) Great Britain. I said I would denounce such a plan scathingly. Dulles then gave a long account of the negotiations leading up to the&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANZUS">Anzus Treaty</a>, and how the Labour Government had made no objection to it at all.</p>
<p>I explained our point of view. Dewey, who is thoroughly friendly, then said that if I objected so strongly, he would let his baby, i.e. the Pacific Treaty, die. In fact I could consider it dead. On the spur of the moment he said that an alternative plan might be for the United Kingdom and the United States to make a joint declaration (comparable to our guarantee to Poland in 1939) that if Communist China attempted to occupy Indo-China, Burma or any other countries in the Pacific Area, we and the Americans would declare war.<sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftn13" name="_ftnref13">13</a></sup></p></blockquote>
<h2><strong>“Great Slab of a Face”</strong></h2>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jock_Colville">Jock Colville</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Soames">Christopher Soames</a>, respectively Churchill’s private and parliamentary private secretaries, were present during this chilly interview. Dewey suggested that Churchill “could cast a spell on all American statesmen and that if he were directly associated with the economic talks, the fears of the people and of Congress would be aroused to such an extent that the success of the talks would be endangered.” Colville continued:</p>
<blockquote><p>Winston took this very reasonable statement ill, but Christopher and I both took pains to assure Dulles afterwards that we thought he was absolutely right. Irritated by this, Winston let fly at Dewey after dinner and worked himself into a fury over certain Pacific Ocean questions. Christopher and I again applied soft soap subsequently. We told Dewey that a sharp debate was the PM’s idea of a pleasant evening…. But…Winston was really worked up and, as he went to bed, said some very harsh things about the Republican Party in general and Dulles in particular…. He said he would have no more to do with Dulles whose “great slab of a face” he disliked and distrusted.<sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftn14" name="_ftnref14">14</a></sup></p></blockquote>
<p>So it was that Thomas Dewey reversed himself, but Churchill’s views remained consistent. He went away with grave doubts about Foster Dulles, who would confirm his misgivings by his attitude toward a Soviet summit at the&nbsp;<a href="https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1952-54v05p2/ch11">Bermuda Conference</a>&nbsp;with Eisenhower the following December.</p>
<p>“I tell you all this,” Churchill concluded in his cable to Eden and Butler, “to show you the rough weather that may well lie ahead in dealing with the Republican Party who have been twenty years out of office; and I feel very sure we should not expect early favourable results. Much patience will be needed.”<sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftn15" name="_ftnref15">15</a></sup></p>
<p>And that indeed is another story—one that&nbsp;<em>The Churchill Documents 1951-</em><em>1965</em>&nbsp;shall relate.</p>
<h2><strong>Endnotes</strong></h2>
<p><sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1">1</a>&nbsp;</sup>Larry P. Arnn &amp; Martin Gilbert, eds.,&nbsp;<em>The Churchill Documents,&nbsp;</em>vol. 22,&nbsp;<em>August 1945-October 1951</em>&nbsp;(Hillsdale College Press, forthcoming).</p>
<p><sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftnref2" name="_ftn2">2</a>&nbsp;</sup>See Herbert Hoover, “Our National Policies in This Crisis,” Broadcast on 20 December 1950, in&nbsp;<em>Addresses Upon the American Road 1950-1955&nbsp;</em>(Stanford, Calif.: Stanford University Press, 1955), 3-10. Online at&nbsp;http://bit.ly/2NQXOs2.</p>
<p><sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftnref3" name="_ftn3">3</a>&nbsp;</sup>Larry P. Arnn &amp; Martin Gilbert, eds.,&nbsp;<em>The Churchill Documents,</em>&nbsp;vol. 21,&nbsp;<em>The Shadows of Victory, January-July 1945</em>&nbsp;(Hillsdale College Press, forthcoming, October 2018.)</p>
<p><sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftnref4" name="_ftn4">4</a>&nbsp;</sup>WSC to Truman, 12 May 1945; Truman to WSC, 21 May 1945, ibid.</p>
<p>N.B. Material referred to in footnote 5 is omitted in this excerpt.</p>
<p><sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftnref5" name="_ftn5"></a></sup></p>
<p><sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftnref6" name="_ftn6">6</a>&nbsp;</sup>Churchill to Attlee and Bevin, 7 March 1946, in&nbsp;<em>The Churchill Documents</em>, vol. 22.</p>
<p><sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftnref7" name="_ftn7">7</a>&nbsp;</sup>Winston S. Churchill, “Foreign Affairs,” House of Commons, 10 December 1948, in&nbsp;<em>The Churchill Documents</em>, vol. 22.</p>
<p><sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftnref8" name="_ftn8">8</a>&nbsp;</sup>Churchill, speech at Leeds, 4 February 1950, in&nbsp;<em>The Churchill Documents</em>, vol. 22.</p>
<p><sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftnref9" name="_ftn9">9</a>&nbsp;</sup>Hoover, “Our National Policies,” 4.</p>
<p><sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftnref10" name="_ftn10">10</a>&nbsp;</sup>Hoover, ibid., 5.</p>
<p><sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftnref11" name="_ftn11">11</a>&nbsp;</sup>Winston S. Churchill, Zurich, 19 September 1946, in Richard M. Langworth, ed.,&nbsp;<em>Churchill By Himself&nbsp;</em>(London: Ebury Press, 2012), 315.</p>
<p><sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftnref12" name="_ftn12">12</a>&nbsp;</sup>Churchill to Thomas Dewey, 30 January 1951, in&nbsp;<em>The Churchill Documents,</em>&nbsp;vol. 22.</p>
<p><sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftnref13" name="_ftn13">13</a>&nbsp;</sup>Martin Gilbert,&nbsp;<em>Winston S. Churchill,&nbsp;</em>vol. 8,&nbsp;<em>Never Despair 1945-1965&nbsp;</em>(Hillsdale, Mich.: Hillsdale College Press, 2013), 791.</p>
<p><sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftnref14" name="_ftn14">14</a>&nbsp;</sup>John Colville,&nbsp;<em>The Fringes of Power: Downing Street Diaries 1940-1955,&nbsp;</em>2 vols. Sevenoaks, Kent: Sceptre Publishing, 1986-87, II 320. Note: It is widely reported, but without attribution, that Churchill also said Dulles was <a href="https://richardlangworth.com/bull-in-a-china-shop">“the only bull who carries his china shop with him.”</a></p>
<p><sup><a href="https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/dewey-hoover-american-isolationism/#_ftnref15" name="_ftn15">15</a>&nbsp;</sup>Gilbert,&nbsp;<em>Never Despair,</em>&nbsp;791.</p>
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