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		By: Richard Langworth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Langworth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2018 14:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://localhost:8080/quotatioins#comment-17432&quot;&gt;JohnKSa&lt;/a&gt;.

Correcting Churchill misquotes often risks charges of pedantry, usually by fellow pedants (full marks to you). He has however been so egregiously misquoted that I&#039;ll risk it.

1) &quot;Dyke: A wall built to prevent the sea or a river from covering an area, or a channel dug to take water away from an area.&quot; &lt;a href=&quot;https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/dyke&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;-Cambridge English Dictionary.&lt;/a&gt;

2) True, and I usually identify inexact wording, as opposed to misattributions, in that case: &quot;Close, but no cigar.&quot;

3) I am not obliged to supply the originators of phrases, only to assert that they don&#039;t (to date) track to Churchill.* When the originator is known for certain, I usually supply it, through references to researchers like the eminent &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.amazon.com/Quote-Verifier-Said-What-Where/dp/0312340044&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ralph Keyes&lt;/a&gt;.

*It is an ongoing process. For example, only recently, documents in the Churchill Archives surfaced to show both Churchill and Shaw denied the famous exchange on Shaw&#039;s play premiere (&quot;Bring a friend, if you have one&quot; ... &quot;I&#039;ll come the second night, if there is one&quot;). Dropped from the latest edition of my &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.amazon.com/Churchill-Himself-Definitive-Collection-Quotations/dp/1586489577&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;quotations book&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://localhost:8080/quotatioins#comment-17432">JohnKSa</a>.</p>
<p>Correcting Churchill misquotes often risks charges of pedantry, usually by fellow pedants (full marks to you). He has however been so egregiously misquoted that I’ll risk it.</p>
<p>1) “Dyke: A wall built to prevent the sea or a river from covering an area, or a channel dug to take water away from an area.” <a href="https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/dyke" rel="nofollow">-Cambridge English Dictionary.</a></p>
<p>2) True, and I usually identify inexact wording, as opposed to misattributions, in that case: “Close, but no cigar.”</p>
<p>3) I am not obliged to supply the originators of phrases, only to assert that they don’t (to date) track to Churchill.* When the originator is known for certain, I usually supply it, through references to researchers like the eminent <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0312340044/?tag=richmlang-20" rel="nofollow">Ralph Keyes</a>.</p>
<p>*It is an ongoing process. For example, only recently, documents in the Churchill Archives surfaced to show both Churchill and Shaw denied the famous exchange on Shaw’s play premiere (“Bring a friend, if you have one” … “I’ll come the second night, if there is one”). Dropped from the latest edition of my <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1586489577/?tag=richmlang-20" rel="nofollow">quotations book</a>.</p>
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		By: JohnKSa		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2018 05:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[1) There is a profound difference between dike and dyke and an even more profound difference between sticking something in one vs. the other.

2) By the way, not getting a quote exactly correct (as with the POW quote) is quite a different animal from a misattribution.  Failing to differentiate between the two is sloppy.

3) And one more by the way.  Failing to verify that someone said something is not proof that they didn&#039;t say it. Conclusive proof would be verifying who DID originate the quotation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) There is a profound difference between dike and dyke and an even more profound difference between sticking something in one vs. the other.</p>
<p>2) By the way, not getting a quote exactly correct (as with the POW quote) is quite a different animal from a misattribution.  Failing to differentiate between the two is sloppy.</p>
<p>3) And one more by the way.  Failing to verify that someone said something is not proof that they didn’t say it. Conclusive proof would be verifying who DID originate the quotation.</p>
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		By: Richard Langworth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Langworth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2017 23:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[sorry, finger.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, finger.</p>
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		By: Josh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2017 22:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...it’s like the Dutch boy sticking his hand in the dyke.&quot;
Some typos merit a place in my file of quotable quotes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“…it’s like the Dutch boy sticking his hand in the dyke.”<br>
Some typos merit a place in my file of quotable quotes.</p>
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		By: Richard Langworth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Langworth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://localhost:8080/quotatioins#comment-14786&quot;&gt;Vladimir&lt;/a&gt;.

Vladimir: Happens all the time!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://localhost:8080/quotatioins#comment-14786">Vladimir</a>.</p>
<p>Vladimir: Happens all the time!</p>
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		By: Vladimir		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vladimir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2017 10:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Optimists and Pessimists: Someone forgot to do their research before their big meeting: https://youtu.be/DkYTmN7_fi8]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Optimists and Pessimists: Someone forgot to do their research before their big meeting: <a href="https://youtu.be/DkYTmN7_fi8" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/DkYTmN7_fi8</a></p>
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		By: Richard Langworth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Langworth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2017 21:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://localhost:8080/quotatioins#comment-13162&quot;&gt;Alex&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for your resolve! Unfortunately, I don&#039;t know who said it, nor does Ralph Keyes of &lt;em&gt;The Quote Verifier.&lt;/em&gt; But there are some alternate things Churchill reliably said on the subject. See my post:
https://richardlangworth.com/optimists-pessimists]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://localhost:8080/quotatioins#comment-13162">Alex</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for your resolve! Unfortunately, I don’t know who said it, nor does Ralph Keyes of <em>The Quote Verifier.</em> But there are some alternate things Churchill reliably said on the subject. See my post:<br>
<a href="https://richardlangworth.com/optimists-pessimists" rel="nofollow ugc">https://richardlangworth.com/optimists-pessimists</a></p>
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		By: Alex		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2017 20:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am also wondering who did say A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty. I&#039;m using this quote in a speech and I NEED the correct citation. I NEVER perpetuate false claims.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also wondering who did say A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty. I’m using this quote in a speech and I NEED the correct citation. I NEVER perpetuate false claims.</p>
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		By: Richard Langworth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Langworth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2015 16:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://localhost:8080/quotatioins#comment-12136&quot;&gt;Kate Bowles&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m sorry but I don&#039;t. It&#039;s been around many years and Googling it produces numerous sites crediting it to Churchill, but with no citations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://localhost:8080/quotatioins#comment-12136">Kate Bowles</a>.</p>
<p>I’m sorry but I don’t. It’s been around many years and Googling it produces numerous sites crediting it to Churchill, but with no citations.</p>
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		By: Kate Bowles		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate Bowles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2015 22:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do you have any leads on the source of the strategy quote? When did it start to attach itself to Churchill?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have any leads on the source of the strategy quote? When did it start to attach itself to Churchill?</p>
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		By: Richard Langworth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Langworth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2015 13:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://localhost:8080/quotatioins#comment-11317&quot;&gt;Mack Salamasond&lt;/a&gt;.

More or less, but it&#039;s a garbled and truncated version of two separate comments. I&#039;ve made this the subject of a separate post: https://richardlangworth.com/socialism

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://localhost:8080/quotatioins#comment-11317">Mack Salamasond</a>.</p>
<p>More or less, but it’s a garbled and truncated version of two separate comments. I’ve made this the subject of a separate post: <a href="https://richardlangworth.com/socialism" rel="nofollow ugc">https://richardlangworth.com/socialism</a></p>
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		By: Mack Salamasond		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mack Salamasond]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2015 19:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is now going around the web attributed to Churchill. Is it accurate? &quot;Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is now going around the web attributed to Churchill. Is it accurate? “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”</p>
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		By: Richard M. Langworth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard M. Langworth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2014 12:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://localhost:8080/quotatioins#comment-6679&quot;&gt;Jack b&lt;/a&gt;.

He did NOT say, &quot;If you&#039;re going through hell, keep going.&quot; No attribution whatsoever. It&#039;s &quot;Churchilllian (or Yogi Berra) drift: https://richardlangworth.com/drift]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://localhost:8080/quotatioins#comment-6679">Jack b</a>.</p>
<p>He did NOT say, “If you’re going through hell, keep going.” No attribution whatsoever. It’s “Churchilllian (or Yogi Berra) drift: <a href="https://richardlangworth.com/drift" rel="nofollow ugc">https://richardlangworth.com/drift</a></p>
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		By: Jack b		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[He did say &quot;If you&#039;re going through hell, keep going&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He did say “If you’re going through hell, keep going”</p>
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		By: www.ask.com		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2014 01:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s very easy to find out any matter on web as compared to textbooks, as 
I found this paragraph at this website.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s very easy to find out any matter on web as compared to textbooks, as<br>
I found this paragraph at this website.</p>
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		By: Richard M. Langworth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard M. Langworth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry, I don&#039;t, nor does my colleague Ralph Keyes (&quot;The Quote Verifier&quot;). Like many &quot;red herrings,&quot; it is all over the web ascribed to Churchill--and not one of those appearances offers a source (speech, book or whatever). If he said it, I have yet to see attribution.

He did say some amusing things about optimists and pessimists, which I will post today: http://richardlangworth.com/optimists]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I don’t, nor does my colleague Ralph Keyes (“The Quote Verifier”). Like many “red herrings,” it is all over the web ascribed to Churchill–and not one of those appearances offers a source (speech, book or whatever). If he said it, I have yet to see attribution.</p>
<p>He did say some amusing things about optimists and pessimists, which I will post today: <a href="http://richardlangworth.com/optimists" rel="nofollow ugc">http://richardlangworth.com/optimists</a></p>
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		By: Julie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do you know who did say &quot;A pes­simist sees the dif­fi­culty in every oppor­tu­nity; an opti­mist sees the oppor­tu­nity in every difficulty&quot;? I can&#039;t find it anywhere as everyone attributes it to Churchill.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know who did say “A pes­simist sees the dif­fi­culty in every oppor­tu­nity; an opti­mist sees the oppor­tu­nity in every difficulty”? I can’t find it anywhere as everyone attributes it to Churchill.</p>
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