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		By: Hira Jungkow		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Pravin Wilson: In addition to the St. Paul&#039;s Memorial and Memorial Gates pictured in the article, Britain has a &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chattri,_Brighton&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;memorial for Indian soldiers, the Chattri in Brighton,&lt;/a&gt; that is more than a century old. 

Nor have Britons in any way neglected the contributions of Indians, from the Great Man himself to even Michael Heseltine. In his book &lt;em&gt;Toward Resurgent India&lt;/em&gt;, Lt. Gen. M. M. Lakhera PVSM AVSM VSM writes:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I had gone to UK in 1995 as Deputy Leader of the Indian Delegation to take part in the 50th Anniversary celebrations of the victory in Europe during the Second World War. I, along with four other Army officers, had just stepped out after attending the inaugural session and were waiting on the roadside for the traffic to ease so as to walk across the road to the vehicle park. Among those with me was Honorary &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umrao_Singh#Later_life&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Captain Umrao Singh&lt;/a&gt;, a Victoria Cross winner. All of a sudden, a car moving on the road came to a halt in front of us and a well-dressed gentleman stepped out.

He approached Umrao Singh and said, &quot;Sir, may I have the privilege of shaking hands with the Victoria Cross [winner]?&quot; Evidently he had spotted Umrao Singh&#039;s medal from his car and had stopped to pay his respect to a winner of Britain&#039;s highest gallantry medal. Then he looked at me and said, &quot;General, you are from the Indian Army.&quot; When I replied in the affirmative, he gave out his name, saying that he was Michael Heseltine. I was absolutely astounded, as the recognition dawned on me that he was about to become Britain&#039;s Deputy Prime Minister. 

I was totally overawed by such courtesy shown by such a dignitary, and humbly thanked him for having invited our delegation for the VE-Day function. Again, his reply was typical of his sagacity: &quot;General, it is we, the British, who should be grateful to your country and your Armed Forces, who had helped us win both the First and the Second World Wars. How could we be ever so ungrateful as to forget your country&#039;s great contribution?&#039;

Suddenly I became conscious that all the traffic behind his car had come to standstill. I hurried to thank him and politely requested him to move along to relieve the traffic hold-up. He stated, &quot;Sir, how dare I drive off when [the] Victoria Cross has to cross the road?&quot; Realizing his genuine feeling I and my colleagues quickly crossed the road. Reaching the other side I looked back and saw that Mr. Heseltine still standing, waiting for the Victoria Cross to be safely across.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Twenty-nine Victoria Crosses were awarded to Indians. Of these, 19 were awarded for valour in the presence of the enemy in the Second World War. Thirteen VCs were awarded to the Nepalese, nine for valour in the Second World War. 

The truth remains that only a minority of Indians were against the British, and fewer still hated them as you imply. There&#039;s a reason why Britons [women and children included] numbered no more than 0.06% of the subcontinent&#039;s population. And also why, 250 of 395 articles in the Republic&#039;s constitution were taken verbatim from the Government of India Act passed by the British Parliament in 1935.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pravin Wilson: In addition to the St. Paul’s Memorial and Memorial Gates pictured in the article, Britain has a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chattri,_Brighton" rel="nofollow ugc">memorial for Indian soldiers, the Chattri in Brighton,</a> that is more than a century old. </p>
<p>Nor have Britons in any way neglected the contributions of Indians, from the Great Man himself to even Michael Heseltine. In his book <em>Toward Resurgent India</em>, Lt. Gen. M. M. Lakhera PVSM AVSM VSM writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>I had gone to UK in 1995 as Deputy Leader of the Indian Delegation to take part in the 50th Anniversary celebrations of the victory in Europe during the Second World War. I, along with four other Army officers, had just stepped out after attending the inaugural session and were waiting on the roadside for the traffic to ease so as to walk across the road to the vehicle park. Among those with me was Honorary <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umrao_Singh#Later_life" rel="nofollow ugc">Captain Umrao Singh</a>, a Victoria Cross winner. All of a sudden, a car moving on the road came to a halt in front of us and a well-dressed gentleman stepped out.</p>
<p>He approached Umrao Singh and said, “Sir, may I have the privilege of shaking hands with the Victoria Cross [winner]?” Evidently he had spotted Umrao Singh’s medal from his car and had stopped to pay his respect to a winner of Britain’s highest gallantry medal. Then he looked at me and said, “General, you are from the Indian Army.” When I replied in the affirmative, he gave out his name, saying that he was Michael Heseltine. I was absolutely astounded, as the recognition dawned on me that he was about to become Britain’s Deputy Prime Minister. </p>
<p>I was totally overawed by such courtesy shown by such a dignitary, and humbly thanked him for having invited our delegation for the VE-Day function. Again, his reply was typical of his sagacity: “General, it is we, the British, who should be grateful to your country and your Armed Forces, who had helped us win both the First and the Second World Wars. How could we be ever so ungrateful as to forget your country’s great contribution?’</p>
<p>Suddenly I became conscious that all the traffic behind his car had come to standstill. I hurried to thank him and politely requested him to move along to relieve the traffic hold-up. He stated, “Sir, how dare I drive off when [the] Victoria Cross has to cross the road?” Realizing his genuine feeling I and my colleagues quickly crossed the road. Reaching the other side I looked back and saw that Mr. Heseltine still standing, waiting for the Victoria Cross to be safely across.</p></blockquote>
<p>Twenty-nine Victoria Crosses were awarded to Indians. Of these, 19 were awarded for valour in the presence of the enemy in the Second World War. Thirteen VCs were awarded to the Nepalese, nine for valour in the Second World War. </p>
<p>The truth remains that only a minority of Indians were against the British, and fewer still hated them as you imply. There’s a reason why Britons [women and children included] numbered no more than 0.06% of the subcontinent’s population. And also why, 250 of 395 articles in the Republic’s constitution were taken verbatim from the Government of India Act passed by the British Parliament in 1935.</p>
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		By: Pravin Wilson		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Really? If Churchill and any of Britain were so appreciative, show me one monument in England to Indians who &quot;fought&quot; for Britain.  Only someone deranged would &quot;volunteer&quot; to fight for the British who all the while were colonizing and daily impoverishing and treating Indians like dogs while enriching themselves. Show me one famine that occurred after the British left. Show me. Where ever the Brits went they enriched themselves and impoverished people and ruined the country, not to mention the wild life, etc. Churchill is a great hero only in the west, just like Mao is a great hero in China.  He will always remain equal to or worse than Hitler in India.  Same goes for all those Brits who went before him in ruining India.  Unfortunately for Churchill and the Brits this thing called the internet came along to help us all correct the version of history written by the Brits.
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&lt;em&gt;Really: Thanks to &quot;this thing called the Internet,&quot; you don&#039;t have to remain in staggering ignorance. St. Paul&#039;s has memorialized the Indian Army since the First World War. A giant &lt;a href=&quot;https://memorialgates.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Memorial&lt;/a&gt; to Indian and Empire troops who fought in both World Wars is bang in the middle of London between Buckingham Palace and Hyde Park Corner. You can tell the monument to Indian troops because it has the word &quot;India&quot; on it. Five regions of the Indian subcontinent are honored: Bangladesh, India, Nepal, Pakistan and Sri-Lanka. It’s on Constitution Hill opposite Apsley House in pride of place close to the Australia, New Zealand and Bomber Command monuments and not far from the Canadian, though it’s larger, taller and more distinctive than any of them. It was opened by HM the Queen in 2002. It is part of a Memorial honoring holders of the Victoria and George Crosses, including many Indians, whose images are rotated on the Memorial website: https://memorialgates.org/ 

&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;Far from being deranged, nearly three million Indians volunteered to fight, the largest volunteer army in the history of mankind. They presumably knew better than you about which side to choose.&lt;/em&gt; —RML]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? If Churchill and any of Britain were so appreciative, show me one monument in England to Indians who “fought” for Britain.  Only someone deranged would “volunteer” to fight for the British who all the while were colonizing and daily impoverishing and treating Indians like dogs while enriching themselves. Show me one famine that occurred after the British left. Show me. Where ever the Brits went they enriched themselves and impoverished people and ruined the country, not to mention the wild life, etc. Churchill is a great hero only in the west, just like Mao is a great hero in China.  He will always remain equal to or worse than Hitler in India.  Same goes for all those Brits who went before him in ruining India.  Unfortunately for Churchill and the Brits this thing called the internet came along to help us all correct the version of history written by the Brits.<br>
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<em>Really: Thanks to “this thing called the Internet,” you don’t have to remain in staggering ignorance. St. Paul’s has memorialized the Indian Army since the First World War. A giant <a href="https://memorialgates.org/" rel="nofollow ugc">Memorial</a> to Indian and Empire troops who fought in both World Wars is bang in the middle of London between Buckingham Palace and Hyde Park Corner. You can tell the monument to Indian troops because it has the word “India” on it. Five regions of the Indian subcontinent are honored: Bangladesh, India, Nepal, Pakistan and Sri-Lanka. It’s on Constitution Hill opposite Apsley House in pride of place close to the Australia, New Zealand and Bomber Command monuments and not far from the Canadian, though it’s larger, taller and more distinctive than any of them. It was opened by HM the Queen in 2002. It is part of a Memorial honoring holders of the Victoria and George Crosses, including many Indians, whose images are rotated on the Memorial website: <a href="https://memorialgates.org/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://memorialgates.org/</a> </em></p>
<p><em>Far from being deranged, nearly three million Indians volunteered to fight, the largest volunteer army in the history of mankind. They presumably knew better than you about which side to choose.</em> —RML</p>
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		By: William Clark		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2020 09:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The film &quot;Dunkirk&quot; was quite surreal in other ways. Any newsreel or photo of WW2 shows many soldiers with a cigarette hanging out of their mouths...and as for the pristine beaches! There are a few minutes of the Dunkirk beaches shown in the film &quot;Atonement&quot; (2007) which are far more realistic and capture the mood of despair over the whole shambles.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The film “Dunkirk” was quite surreal in other ways. Any newsreel or photo of WW2 shows many soldiers with a cigarette hanging out of their mouths…and as for the pristine beaches! There are a few minutes of the Dunkirk beaches shown in the film “Atonement” (2007) which are far more realistic and capture the mood of despair over the whole shambles.</p>
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		By: Diane Parry		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2017 09:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for your constant vigilance in protecting Winston Churchill&#039;s good name from those who continually seek to besmirch it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your constant vigilance in protecting Winston Churchill’s good name from those who continually seek to besmirch it.</p>
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		By: Victor Humphres		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2017 09:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anyone who fought against Nazi oppression is to be applauded. So many died to stop one man trying to change the world; imagine  what it would have been like if he had achieved his ambition. But now we have new problems, which could solve all earthly matters by a catastrophic nuclear exchange, turning the earth into a burnt out planet hurtling away into oblivion. Been there done that. I am 93 years old and have peeped into the future. World War II was a picnic compare with what the next World War would be like.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who fought against Nazi oppression is to be applauded. So many died to stop one man trying to change the world; imagine  what it would have been like if he had achieved his ambition. But now we have new problems, which could solve all earthly matters by a catastrophic nuclear exchange, turning the earth into a burnt out planet hurtling away into oblivion. Been there done that. I am 93 years old and have peeped into the future. World War II was a picnic compare with what the next World War would be like.</p>
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		By: Richard Munro		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[My grandfather proudly served with the Dins in the 27th Division during the Great War, or Cogadh Mor as he called it. As noted, over a million Indian soldiers volunteered for WW1 and over two million for WW2. In the latter, most fought in Africa and later Sicily and Italy and the Far East. During WW1, Indian troops fought in the Balkans, Egypt, Palestine and Mesopotamia. Churchill never forgot this vast contribution. The majority were Sikhs and the Sikh and Gurkha regiments, as respected and trusted as the best Highland or Canadian regiments. My grandfather was of the opinion that Britain would have lost the First World War without Indian support before the entry of the USA.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My grandfather proudly served with the Dins in the 27th Division during the Great War, or Cogadh Mor as he called it. As noted, over a million Indian soldiers volunteered for WW1 and over two million for WW2. In the latter, most fought in Africa and later Sicily and Italy and the Far East. During WW1, Indian troops fought in the Balkans, Egypt, Palestine and Mesopotamia. Churchill never forgot this vast contribution. The majority were Sikhs and the Sikh and Gurkha regiments, as respected and trusted as the best Highland or Canadian regiments. My grandfather was of the opinion that Britain would have lost the First World War without Indian support before the entry of the USA.</p>
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