“Greeks Fight Like Heroes – Heroes Fight Like Greeks”: Not by Churchill
Q: Did Churchill say this about the Greeks?
A: Churchill’s sentiments but not his words
John Colville: diary (Colville papers) 22 September 1940:
The PM gave vent to a most horrific display of abusive epithets when he saw a telegram about Sir S. Symes,* Governor General of the Sudan, who is said to be “bored with the war.” So strongly did he feel that he had to call me back and say, “Don’t put it to Cadogan in quite those terms.” (The report had come from [Ambassador Miles] Lampson at Cairo.) Discuss the Egyptian battle which now seems to be opening. The PM is full of confidence and says that we have enough good troops out there to do what is necessary “unless, of course, our men fight like skunks and the Italians like heroes.” But he feels the opposite is more likely to be the case.
Alexander Cadogan, Permanent Under-Secretary for Foreign Affairs (1938-46), was a frequent critic of Churchill’s. As a civil servant he was relatively insulated, and WSC was careful with his language where Cadogan was concerned.
Possible origins
Of course the “Greeks” phrase might have escaped my search and have been said on some other occasion. Churchill was attracted to good turns of phrase and retreaded and revised them often.
It is true that WSC was not impressed by the Italian army. Equally unsubstantiated is the crack he made about it in his famous meeting with von Ribbentrop in 1937. When the German Ambassador reminded him that if there was another war, Germany would have the Italians on her side, Churchill’s supposed reply (thus far undocumented) was: “It’s only fair. We had them last time.” (I mention this purely in the impartial role of historian.)
*Sir George Symes DSO
George Stewart Symes (1882-1962) entered the Army in 1900. He saw active service in South Africa (1902), Aden (1903-04, DSO), and on the Western Front in the First World War, where he was mentioned in despatches. He was Assistant Director of Intelligence, Sudan, 1918-19; Governor of the Northern District, Palestine, 1920-25; Chief Secretary, Government of Palestine, 1925-28; Resident and Commander-in-Chief, Aden, 1928-31; Governor and Commander-in-Chief, Tanganyika, 1931-33; and Governor-General of the Sudan, 1934-40. He was knighted in 1928.
See also:
“Athens 1944: Some Lighter Moments in a Serious Situation” (2020)
One thought on ““Greeks Fight Like Heroes – Heroes Fight Like Greeks”: Not by Churchill”
This article is now used by social media to censor proud Greeks from using the phrase in their posts about OXI day, even though the author and historian himself is not sure, and it’s possible WSC did say it based on other sentiments.
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Could be. He was a great admirer of the Greek resistance to Musso. I would be glad to have a source. —RML